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Hello Everyone,

My name is Jon. I'm a 31 Year old Disabled Veteran. retired (Medically) from the US Navy.

I found this site after speaking with Mark Virkler (via email) about how important it is to hear God's voice.

I was in Anti-Terrorism while in the Military and I tell this because I was always gone from home and didn't "Need" God or want anything to do with him for my whole life. I am here to say boy was I wrong........

Looking back now I can visibly see he cared and loved me so much ANC at least I am disabled and not dead. He helped me SO MUCH! I finally met a guy who is also my neighbor after living next to him for 3 years. I was always sick and inside and in bad shape. One day he came to me and said I needed Jesus. I blew him off nicely and he said he would pray for me and I said thanks for the prayers etc..

Well the Holy Spirit came alive inside me that afternoon and night and all I could think about was God and "What If".

Well the next day I went outside for the first time in years and asked him to walk with me and talked about Jesus and all he did and he told me how to get saved and wrote it dowm for me. I went home and got on my knees and cryed my eyes out amd asked for forgiveness and repented and accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior amd added the stipulation if your real let me stop hurting so much so often please.

I went to be some kinda hurting. I woke up pain free and have been completely fine since that was August 2011. I am saved and righteous and just got Baptized on Sunday evening and am rocking and rolling in Christ.

Long story short I have read the 4 keys and watched the (10) video on it and (10) Audio ones and the book and workbook etc...

I have tried the Internet and google and YouTube and other etc...

I can't seem to fix my eyes on Jesus or get him in my visions or tune to his flow, spontaneous thoughts and hear him.

I quiet myself down ( I have visions but not biblical ones) but when I try 4 keys it is black and stays black and then blankness.

Any help?

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Thanks for the inspiring testimony..I pray that God will bless you and use you for His glory and

purpose.

Sir,

Its just unbelief, if you are a believer in Jesus Christ, then the Holy Spirit lives in you, He is the greatest communicator between you and God, you need to expectantly wait on Him to help you, in plain words, wait for Him to show up, just wait, He does not delay in showing up to you, for the Holy Spirit came like a rushing mighty wind from heaven to the disciples, and before peter finished his message to Cornelius, the Holy Spirit fell on his whole family, He will come to your help, for He is called the Helper. I don't think you have never felt any kind of illumination or your heart leaping or a feeling of confirmation by Holy Spirit, I'm quite sure you have, but you don't count it. And like I said before, do pray in tongues and continue in it, your complete man, spirit, body and soul is getting built up in the process. If you have been taught anything contrary or bad about this gift of tongues, or it exists no more or it is not for you, then repent, ("which means change your mind"), for it is not of God, it is of the devil. It is a powerful prayer, that bypasses every hindrance, and takes you to new planes in the heavenly realm, and it sharpens your spiritual senses. Besides that, it is perfect prayer, prayed in perfect faith, in accordance to the will of God for your life.

I hope what i said was helpful to you,

Take Care,

K.Santosh :)

I like that phrase-K-,"a powerful prayer that bypasses every hindrance----its similar to "the peace that passes all understanding!!!---------hey bro,Im Chaz and it is my pleasure to meet you.

Nice to meet you to bro.

Now I know 2 people named Chaz...
Very helpful.

I spoke in Tongues once for like 30 minutes and it changed 3 times is that normal? I know the words or dialect's changed I could physically hear it.

It went from like Angelic to ancient Hebrew to some 500 BC Chi es or at least those are what my mind was telling me. I hope I did it right as it sounded weird but wasn't co ing from me per-se. It was all over the place and one thing I noticed is I side my body below my stomach barely there was a "Flow" like water splashing around and I started to giggle and I NEVER do that so whatcha think?

Any who on to the Talking with Jesus. I keep trying to do all 4 keys at once and I can't do one or two is it possible to talk to the Lord without seeing him in every vision? I keep seeing and hearing ALL 4 keys must be active to work. But when a preacher is in church preaching and gets a word from God he is neither quiet nor in vision he just hears and speaks so is it possible to quiet myself down and just tune to flow and listen without visions?

If so I can prolly do it. Cause me and visions don't mix well.....

Jon

Hi Sir,

Yes sir, it is tongues, if you try to understand what you are saying, you would definitely get such thoughts, that you are making it up or that you are crazy, but the truth is anyone who prays in tongues, does not himself understand what he says, for it is a direct communication with God, from your spirit to God, who is Spirit. The only way you can get an idea of what you pray in tongues, is by the gift of interpretation of tongues. Just pray in faith, as He puts His words in your mouth.

I hope this was useful to you.

But if you try and listen to what your saying does it change or sound likely changes from different dialects or "Old Languages"?

Usually I don't pay attention to what I am saying until I realize I am talking and I notice it isn't English mine happens sometime and I don't realize I am doing it.

I was curious about the dialects though I swear one time I listened And my mind says that's old Chinese then old Hebrew then old French or something but the dialect deffianetaly changed 3 times one me.

Just curious.

I guess that means I have the holy spirit which I knew I did but always question it cause I can't seem to hear god through him like everyone else on this site can.... Gonna keep at it. Never gona let u
Cause that's priceless to me personally.

Jon

Hit me back Raj at jhouse757@msn.com

Yes Sir,

It changes for me too, for the Holy Spirit prays through you helping you out in your weakness, as you know not how to pray in a situation. that is where tongues, is an important gift.

My Question : Why not?

And out comes the answer, "I don't believe I can". <--- You see that?

Just believe you can, the kingdom of God operates like this: believe first and then the manifestation comes, we operate by faith in the Kingdom of God. Of course there are sovereign acts from the Lord, but there is another legal way of accessing your gifts, and faith, pleases the Lord :). 

Your faith needs to flood your spiritual senses first, then your soulish sense next, and then you can physically hear Him, when you are saturated, it goes from the spirit to the body, inside - out, we "work out" our salvation, our spirit he been already perfected by Jesus Christ's works. you need to draw it out by faith from your spirit, what the Holy Spirit has birthed in you, have faith. That is what it means to draw out, the "hidden treasures" in our earthen vessels. 

Have patience sir, and rest in Him, as you build yourself in the most holy faith

God created your imagination, so that He can talk to you in them too, but however, do pray in tongues, sometimes He will light up something in your imagination, thats inner vision, and there is an open vision where you see the vision through your naked eye, in fact Mark Virkler, talks about the left brain and right brain interaction and how to move into the right brain hemisphere, which controls imagination creativity etc, where the visions and dreams flow continously. The left brain is the hemisphere where your logic, reasoning, and order are prevalent. He also says, that if you listen to worship music, Like Elisha did, in the Old Testament, where he calls for a musician, upon whom the hand of the Lord came, and he played skillfully, and Elisha got a word from the LORD. another way, is tongues, tongues helps you to shift to the right hemisphere of the brain. I hope it was useful to you,

I have sent you a mail on the teaching of Tongues by Patricia King, i'm sure that teaching would help you pray more in tongues.

check you mailbox in this network sir.

Cool thanks will check that out in the morning. Won't work on my iPad so I'll check it on the laptop tomorrow morning. Wife's asleep and don't want to wake her. I love checking out MP3 lessons and books and teachings on my iPad a lot. Wish I had a lot more teachings on various things...Tongues, dreams, hearing god etc.. There is SO MANY good books out on God and the Supernatural I wish I owned lol

Thanks again Raj.

Sincerely,

Jon

Its my pleasure :).

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