Free Resources Available for Prayers That Heal the Heart & Misc. Requests

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Permalink Reply by Ben Small on March 29, 2010 at 1:09pm

I just ordered the 'Prayers that heal the heart' cd audio series, and part of me is hoping "great this will be what I need to be free", and part of me is feeling pretty scared that it will turn out to be another disappointment, as I have recieved countless prayer and ministry including deliverance to rid me of this 20 year long battle with depression and anxiety. But what can you do about feeling that way, when so many people' have told you, you'll be free?.
I really don't want to sound cynical, and the last thing I want when the teaching arrives is to have an attitude of 'oh well, let's see what happens?', any pointers anyone?

Permalink Reply by Mark Virkler on March 29, 2010 at 5:34pm

Ben,
you need to settle in your heart what God's will is for you and then decide to settle for nothing less. He has come to set the captives free, so whatever it takes, you do that and you get set free.

The CD's will get you largely free, as you apply them!!!! the final prayer, 'deliverance Prayer" should be done by two others praying for you.

If all the above does not get you completly free, then you go to our PTHTH healing rooms here at KN, or you go for 2.5 days of counseling with the following people: YOU WILL BE FREE!!!
Bill and Toni Morgan (3 days of ministry)
Faith Family Ministries
http://www.faithfamily.net
ffm@faithfamily.net

Permalink Reply by Ben Small on March 29, 2010 at 6:54pm

Thanks so much for your reply.

It was actually, whilst watching an episode of 'It's Supernatural' with Sid Roth that you were a guest on, that started ringing bells SO loudly that I knew I had to order the teaching. It seems a lot of the struggles you went through, have mirrored similar struggles in my own life.

It's strange that during times of great struggle, God seems distant, and It's very hard to invisualise that he really does want me free and restored. Of course I know in my head that It's the truth, but getting your heart lined up is a little harder!!.

I am confident that the cd's are for me and will really apply myself.

With regard to Faith family ministries?, I take it they are based in the States?. I'm based in the UK so that could be a problem!!. Although when I emailed your organisation originally, Revival fire Ministries in Dudley west Midlands were recommended.

If you feel however, that a particular ministry in the States would be the most beneficial, then having carried this stuff around for the greater half of my life, then the expense of an air fare is not going to stop me.

Again, thanks so much for taking the time to answer my post Rev Virkler, It's much appreciated.

God bless you in all you do,

Ben.

Permalink Reply by Mark Virkler on March 29, 2010 at 10:07pm

Ben,
Contact Revival Fires. they know of a husband wife team that have been trained by Kylstra's, in the "Restoring the Foundations" teaching.
they will counsel you (and charge), and it will be exactly what you need. it is almost identical to PTHTH.

Permalink Reply by Ben Small on April 7, 2010 at 8:47am

Hi Mark,

I have started listening to my new audio cd's of PTHTH, and am on the 2nd cd.
So much so far I can relate to and some of your personal stories are almost identical to simailar situations I have been in and the way I have reacted due to fear and anxiety.

I feel as if I am in a catch 22 situation, as I am encouraged by the teaching as far as it highlights and identifies why I may be having the issues I am, but have this overwhelming feeling that 'it won't work for me', which I guess is not entirely unsurprising considering what I am going through, but It's so hard to take the teaching on when you have this huge internal dialogue battle taking place!.

Any pointers?

Ben.

Permalink Reply by Mark Virkler on April 7, 2010 at 8:58am

Ben,
to life in faith in God, His power and His principles is a decision you choose to make.

All who come to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him. (Heb. 11:1-6). So choose to believe He will meet you. Choose to believe the Bible is true. Choose to not rest until biblical truth is realized in your life, and anything that needs to be moved out of the way, will be moved out of the way. Uncompromising faith brings divine rewards.

Permalink Reply by Ben Small on April 7, 2010 at 11:55am

Sounds good. Thanks, I take it we are talking about decisions here and NOT feelings?, as the decisions would be a photo negative of whats going on inside, with regard to faith and an awareness of Gods presence.

Permalink Reply by Amy Brown on April 16, 2010 at 8:47pm

Ben, Let me join Mark in encouraging you! It is absolutely God's will for YOU to be free, not just other people. It is definitely a series of decisions and then the feelings will begin to line up. I went through this same internal battle/dialogue for several years, but through PTHTH and much meditation on the Word and refusing to listen to anyone, including myself, that thought I wouldn't get victory, I am victorious!! Let the truth determine your feelings, not vice versa. This is very difficult at first because you are used to fully engaging all these negative thoughts and giving them much weight in your life. Believe me, I KNOW how TRUE these feelings and thoughts seem to you, but they are NOT.
I was once given a great illustration. Have you ever heard a sound in the night, and you were extremely frightened?? Your heart began to pound, you broke out in a cold sweat? Well, your emotions will get in line with anything your mind speaks. Even though the terrifying sound was actually a tree brushing against a window instead of an intruder, your emotions and body performed EXACTLY as they would if you were in terrible danger. SAME WITH DEPRESSION. Your emotions and body will line up with depressing thoughts, and you will be convinced, "I am just very depressed, and therefore I have these thoughts." No, your thoughts came first. So change your thoughts, and YES you can do this!!!
I am going on and on. So sorry. But I have been there and come out on the other side. When you follow the PTHTH materials, you are doing Kingdom Business, and those prayers are a contract. It doesn't matter at all if you FEEL free, you ARE free. Start walking as if you are free. When you sign a contract to buy a house, you don't feel like a homeowner just by signing the papers, but you ARE. You will feel like a homeowner when you walk out the life of a homeowner, mowing grass, picking out furniture, receiving mail at your new address. So do the business, and then start walking the life. And it is entirely possible that you are currently ENTIRELY FREE if you have already done lots of prayer ministry. But you have not yet walked out the life of freedom. So start fresh, do the prayers, write down dates and times of when you received your freedom, and then allow God to renew your mind through the Word.
Many many blessings,
Amy
PS - I am flying to Honduras tomorrow for a mission trip, so I will be away from the computer for a week. But I will keep you in my prayers. God has done this already for you, and you can appropriate it and finally walk in freedom and joy.

Permalink Reply by Ben Small on April 17, 2010 at 7:40pm

Amy,

thanks so much for yor encouraging reply, I appreciate you taking time to write it. 'ts awesome that you've found freedom.
When you have for suffered for so long, It can be quite difficult to asertain the truth. The depression I have always experienced is a result of prolongued anxiety, so basically fear!, so to make a rational decision NOT to go along with the negtive thought pattern, is very difficult, as It seems like your reality at the time. I mean just functioning can be impossible when things get bad, and you feel as if you have nothing left inside and all hope has gone. The idea of just deciding NOT to go along with the negativity and as you said 'walking as if you are free', is a little beynd my reach at the moment, as if I had enough room in my mind to make that concious decision, then I wouldn't be quite in the position I am.

In theory, I understand fully what you mean though, and look forward to the time when I can walk in that knowledge and freedom.

With regard to CHANGING my thoughts?, hmmm, boy I'd love to be able to do that!!..well that's why I'm doing PTHTH, as 20 years of this junk I haven't been able to do that as yet. A work in progress I guess?.

I hope the Mission trip goes well!,

Every Blessing,

Ben.

Permalink Reply by Linda Geyer on April 1, 2010 at 9:57pm

I'm a Christian counseling grad student with CLU. Is Prayers That Heal The Heart included as in any of the classes? Thanks.

Permalink Reply by Patty Klingensmith on April 1, 2010 at 11:11pm

Yes, it is an individual course. I highly recommend it! If you have additional questions, feel free to ask! Patty Klingensmith

Permalink Reply by Jesse Reyes on July 7, 2010 at 3:28am

hi mark i watch you on sid roth and order pthth i have had vision (two) and learning how to tune in to flow(kind of hard) i suffer with quite a number of things and really have no one to talk to about pthth not even about Jesus (which i talk about all the time ) do you have any suggestion???????????????

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